Reply: Spirit Island:: General:: Re: PnP for Downpour/Vengeance/Starlight

by AzureSparrow

ploe wrote:

My main problem would be, that it seems uncomparably hard to hit higher levels of your innates reliably. You depend very much on your card draws and there are already only a few cards that have both fire and beast elements and the effects of those are mostly an odd mix of Dahan and beasts related things (except of course fleshrot fever and inflame the fires of live, which are both very useful).
This might of course change with new power cards from the expansion, but during one playthrough I felt quite frustrated, because I didn't manage to get a single fire+beast card, which made it impossible to trigger max level of both innate abilities at least once.

I don't think there exists a spirit in the game who triggers max levels of their innates without help from power card draws. Nor do I think max level innates is something to expect from every game.

Just looking at minors there's https://sick.oberien.de/?query=elements%3Aanimal%20elements%... 9 animal+fire

I went and checked some of the other fire combos, animal-fire is on the upper end.
Fire+Earth - 6
Fire+Air - 9
Fire+Moon - 10
Fire+Sun - 8
Fire+water - 5
Fire+Plant - 9

I get that there's a lot of people who hate things becoming weaker, but come on guys, Vengeance was legitimately insane before.

Compared to most spirits, they're actually still pretty lenient given how easy it is for them to get presence out now. They have 1 of each element on their tracks, meaning you only need 2 or 3 matching cards to hit the highest level of either innate (easily covered by your uniques). Does it meet both? No. You probably won't be hitting the highest levels on both without the perfect draw. Nor should you. You can draft toward one, and Epidemics Run Rampant's final level seems to be intentionally difficult.

Unlike Fire+Animal, the opposed element combos are more difficult, so I would assume the high water requirement at the bottom of Epidemics Run Rampant is asking you to draft Animal+Water (6) while Savage Revenge wants Fire+Air (9).